Bob Derryberry's Derryberry Family Newsletter
Derryberry Family Newsletter Online #14, October 12, 1999
Go to Andy's site for The Derryberry Family Association for updates on the
reunion and back issues of the Derryberry Family Newsletter Online, plus
copies of Kaye's newsletter of a few years back, and other Derryberry stuff:
Teresa Hardin Jones has been busy researching further back on the family line
and has posted some very interesting findings on the The Derryberry Genforum
Letter from Guy Derryberry, Aug. 25, 1999; my comments in ( ):
Received your newsletter yesterday morning. Really enjoyed reading it,
as usual. I see some things that I would like to comment on. (I welcome
First would be the work done by you and Teresa Jones on the Durrenberger
people. (Teresa did most of it. I just listened. Helps some times to just
have someone to listen while you talk and think things out.) For a long time
I have suspicioned that this John, Sr. and Anna Buck stuff in Burke County,
NC was not right, but had no proof to the contrary. I really believe the
theory that Don Cross advanced a few years ago is the correct one concerning
our Derryberry name. I don't believe there ever was a John, Sr. as the early
one in NC. I believe the earliest ones were Hans Jacob & Hans Michael.
Cannot explain the real early Andrew signature found in NC, but probably was
someway connected to Hans Jacob & Hans Michael.
Neither one of the above 3 was ever on any records in Burke Co., NC, but
their sons that were. (Don't think that has been proven completely.)
Now, having written the above, it stands to reason, we all descend from
the above. (Good reasoning, but later research may indicate it was another
Back in the early 1990s most of us traded information on anything we
knew, helping establish a pattern on different families, such as Adams line,
the Warren Co., TN Derryberrys and John, Jr. in NC. (Yes, and we had to weed
out a lot of ‘tradition passed down in the family' such as the Irish roots,
that was not true. The Bath, OH people helped to fuel that one with
One line almost escaped us altogether. This was Michael. Everyone had
this Michael mixed up (with a younger Michael)
Now, as you know, I have investigated about every Derryberry in this
country at one time or the other. (Thank goodness, someone had the time and
inclination. We owe a lot to Guy's tenacity.) In due time, we along with
many others manage to get a idea on whom belong in each family group, up to
about 1850. Many of all these groups migrated after 1859 to AR, OK & TX and
a few other states. (Add KY and MO.)
What I am trying to say, we know where certain lines were in 1850, so
when these people in OK etc. say Old Grandpaw was born in MS about 1851, we
can, by deduction, place these people. Example would be the letter posted by
Emma Gene Brown concerning some Derryberrys around McCurtain, OK. She said
Sarah's father was William Derryberry born 1850 in MS. There were several
children, especially in Isaac's family, named William about 1850-1860. (I
wish they had been a little more original in naming their children, so maybe
given them a serial #.)
But lets just use the information in your newsletter. First, what
Derryberrys were in MS in 1850. The only known Derryberrys in MS in 1850
were the ones in Tishomingo Co, now Alcorn and Tippah Counties. They were
John T. Isaac, both sons of Isaac and Christina, and Andrew Jackson
Derryberry, thought to be a son of Old Michael and brother to my Daniel and
to Susan Myracle, wife of Peter Myracle. (BTW, people with name similar to
Myracle found in proximity to Durrenbergers in NJ and Alsace.)
Now, going one step further, Emma Brown said William's father was John W.
(The Derryberry Families in America) book, Chapter 24, page 563 seems to
prove that. But note, she said John's father was Andrew Derryberry born
Now who is this Andrew Emma Brown is writing about? It has to be Andrew
Jackson Derryberry that first appeared in Warren Co. TN 1820 census. You
will recall that two Andrew Derryberrys appeared on the 1820 census. One was
known to be Andrew Buck Derryberry. For a ling time we could not determine
who the other Andrew was. This 1820 census Warren Co., TN:
#1 Andrew Derryberry 1 2 0 0 1 - 2 0 3 0 1
#2 Andrew Derryberry 1 1 1 2 0 1 - 2 0 3 1 0
(The numbers are from census records and indicate the number of males and
females of various ages. The 1820 census listed only the head of the
We are not absolutely sure which was Andrew Buck, but believe it to be #1
because he was known to have had 3 sons; Michael Crockett, Andrew Jackson and
Richard. Also, his wife, Sarah Ruecher, was still alive.
Both these Andrews in 1823 moved to where I now live. Andrew Buck died
here in 1839. The rest of the family, about 1842, moved to Madison Co., TN.
This is covered in Chapter 20 (of the book).
This #2 Andrew Derryberry apparently had already lost his wife by 1820,
but note he had 5 sons and 6 daughters. He arrived here where I now live in
1823, built a log home just across the hollow from my g-g-grandfather, Larkin
Ingram. Here he remained until 1835, had about 100 acres of land, but in
1835 he moved with a wagon train to north MS, known to be in the wagon train
were Peter Myracle, John Wesley Essary, John Renshaw Kellum and Wilkerson
people, plus John T., Isaac and Andrew Derryberry, and probably others.
Now, using Emma Brown's information, this Andrew was father of John, and
John was father of William. Well, we do not know the names of these 5 sons
of Andrew by his first wife, but some must have lived to move to MS with him.
Here is what we know of Andrew in MS. We know that he always lived close
to the Peter Myracle family, near Pleasant Grove Cem., almost on the Alcorn-
Tippah county line. In 1845 he, being 51 years old, married a 25 year old
girl by the name of Malissa Glasco. Also, about the same time he had 5
daughters married in MS. I have their records. He reported on 1850 census
Tippah Co. To be 56 years old, had a wife Malissa, with a 6 mos. Old son,
Isaac. At that point I lost him for years. Then in 1860 he turns up in
Jefferson Co., AR census, still with wife Malissa, but now has 2 more sons
born in AR, William & Andrew.
Its known this old Andrew was named Andrew Jackson Derryberry. Its
thought, but not proven, he is son of Michael, the one who had the farm in KY.
You will note the W. In his children's name. We think this traces back
to Wesley name found in Old Michael's family. This Wesley name appears many
times in my Daniel - Susan Myracle family, but does not appear much in any
other Derryberry line.
I think this Emma Brown case is just another example of no known records
having ever been found on Old Michael's family.
I think, but cannot prove, that Old Michael had at least these children,
probably several more:
1. William, married Lowe sister,
2. John Wesley, married Lowe sister,
3. Susan, married Peter Myracle,
4. Daniel, married Mary Maganlean
5. Andrew Jackson 1st married?, 2nd married Malissa Glasco,
6. Michael married in Sumner Co., TN. I have the name but it is not readily
7. Elizabeth also married in Summer Co., TN.
I would suggest that Mrs. Brown take a close look at what I have written
and try to check out some of the above. Some of the above I can prove. Some
was just taking all known information and trying to arrive at some kind of
conclusion. What do you think? (Your reasoning seems pretty sound, but I'm
always open for new ideas that may prove past beliefs right or wrong.)
I have a few more comments on others listed in your newsletter, but am
out of space now. (Guy seems to always limits himself to 3 handwritten pages
of paper.) When you run out of proof, you start using deduction, which most
of the above is, but maybe it will ring a bell provide a starting point for
someone. (I hope someone can pick up where Guy is making deductions and find
the concrete evidence, whatever it may prove.)
From: Pat Duggan, e-mail Duggpt@aol.com
You may or may not wish to use this info in your monthly newsletter.
From the family of Sherod Delwyn Derryberry: Children and grandchildren
of Sherod and Florence Derryberry reunited in Selma, Ala., August 24th for
the wedding of Kevin
and Connie Derryberry. Many of the cousins arriving for the wedding had not
seen one another since their grandmother's funeral in 1984.
E-mail addresses were scribbled on paper napkins and distributed among
ourselves at the wedding brunch prior to the ceremony. Fun was had by all as
we were introduced to "grand cousins" and other misc. relatives. Coming from
Pickerington, Ohio was Lynn Mallow Vaughn, whose mother is Juanita Derryberry
Mallow. Lynn made the long journey with her granddaughter, Laura.
Aside from the beautiful wedding, one thing that impressed me during this
trip was my Aunt Juanita, who informed me that at 83 she has bought a
computer and is going to college to learn how to use it.
From: Rick Williams, e-mail Rick8521@aol.com
The generation info that I got on Henry Derryberry (b1662) and George
Derryberry (b1688) and John J. Derryberry (b1710) came from John Whitlock of
Knoxville, Tennessee. He submitted the information to the LDS website. That
is where I found the information on the Derryberry's.
As far as things about my part of the family. Unfortunately my family was
not good about keeping records and passing down information. Elizabeth
Derryberry married Daniel S. Webb. At some point they moved to Loudon,
Tennessee near Knoxville. They called Elizabeth "Liza" and "Eliza". They were
a farm family. Daniel Webb joined the Union during the Civil WAR and was
captured by the South at the battle of Vicksburg. The story goes that he was
marched through Loudon on his way to a prison camp. His mother saw him
briefly and gave him her shoes to wear. He later died in prison. I haven't
been able to find out any more about where he died and what regiment he
served. The 1890 Veterans Census lists Daniel and "Liza". Elizabeth is buried
in Riverview Cemetery in Loudon Tennessee along with three of her children. I
don't know much more about the family. Most all of my Aunts and Uncles have
Received notice, as most of you did, of The New World Book of
Derryberrys, by Halbert's of Bath, OH. The letter was signed by Robert C.
Derryberry. Halbert's told me once that Robert C. Derryberry of TN was their
contact with the Derryberry family, but would not tell me how to contact him
direct. I contacted the only Robert C. Derryberry that I could find. I
think he was in Maury Co. He denied any connection with Halbert's. Does
anyone know who is that Robert Derryberry? I think we should find him and
stop that nonsense.
Also received from The Derryberry Family News in Denver, CO a notice of
The Y2K Derryberry Family Archives, only $44.85, and if purchased I would get
the next 4 issues of The Derryberry Family News, a $12.00 value. Or, I could
get the Derryberry CD ROM for $49.00. If I bought it, I'd get the Family
Trees, The Derryberry Scrapbook and the next 4 issues of the Derryberry
Family News. I note that they did not claim to have a Derryberry on their
Wonders never cease. Have either of those snookered any Derryberrys that
you know of? I cannot imagine anyone falling for those this day in time,
with so much available on the Internet.
From: Audrey Jean Derryberry Massey, a new e-mail address: AJDMassey@aol.com
I only found out a short time ago that Eula Robinson Lovett, who had kept
the old Adam Derryberry House for over 50 years, passed away. I only wish I
had known at the time because she deserved the respect of the attendance of
most of us at her funeral.
My son Mike had been staying here and working, hoping to bring his family
from Oklahoma, but he and his wife Antoinette decided they wanted to give the
job situation out there another try, and he went back home in June. He just
got a job at Uniroyal in Ardmore and is also working with his minister toward
attending a seminary. He has four children: Kala, 9, Caitlin, 5, Michael, 3,
and Matthew, 19 months. They live in Ringling. Mike served several years as a
My daughter Merri Beth, who lives with me, is working toward a Computer
Science degree at University of Alabama, Huntsville. So far she is holding
down a near perfect 4.0, even with all her math classes. Her son Bryan, 8, is
involved in soccer and baseball this Fall.
Daughter Mikki (Mikala Ann) lives in my old hometown, Columbia, TN, and
is teaching part-time at Central High School. She is an artist and athlete
(gymnastics and tennis, still keeps up the tennis and long distance
bike-riding), - graduated from MTSU, Murfreesboro, TN. She and her husband,
Steve, have two boys, Jay, 12, (named for my father Joseph Rodgers
Derryberry) and Will, 9, both stand-out baseball players in Columbia.
Daughter Melanie lives with her husband Robert and children Bobby, 19,
and Bonnie, 6, near Athens, AL. Robert works for the City of Huntsville, and
Melanie may return to nursing courses now that Bonnie is in school.
My mother, 82, is living with me now, as I think I've already told you.
She has rheumatoid arthritis but gets around well with her walker. She can
take care of her personal needs, but I cook and clean for her. It has been so
satisfying to me knowing that she's not still in her house alone and me
wondering about whether she is warm or cold or being fed well.
I would like everyone to think of me in December when I have my knee
replacement surgery. I have to put it off until then because I provide the
school transportation for my grandson, and Merri Beth will be out of college
classes then to help out both me and him, and Mother, of course, too. Right
now I'm living on cortisone shots and Naprosyn and doing fairly well. I had
no idea my situation was so bad or even that I had arthritis until the
orthopedic surgeon showed me my x-rays and told me I had an "advanced
arthritis." I just ignored the pain and kept on going. We do what we have to
October 2, Lucy Beckner Church posted a message on the Derryberry
Genforum. She is looking for an Elizabeth ‘Lizzie' Derryberry born about
1851, according to census information. She married George Church about
1870-71 probably in VA. She found her evidence of Lizzie in a book, Looking
Back One Hundred Years, 1950, by Hanibal Compton, found in the Buchannan Co.
Library. Their children were Wilson, Mac and Rhoda. Wilson was her
husband's grandfather. The book states that Lizzie was a Primitive Baptist
Faith Healer and midwife. Lizzie last appeared in census reports in 1910.
She is also mentioned in a Bicentennial History, Buchannan Co. If you can
help Lucy, e-mail her at the e-mail address listed in the Derryberry Genforum.
From: Nancy Repenning, e-mail email@example.com
Subj: Vacation and Genealogy
OK, Bob. How's this. I took a vacation and did a little sleuthing, too.
The end of Sept. I went to the French Riviera, or Cote d'Azur, to visit
my son Billy, and wife Lisa, who are expecting my 8th grandchild to be named
Jack McCoy. It is beautiful, and great weather! I came back to Seattle rain
and was ready to go back.
My biggest impression was all the history. In this country, particularly
in the west, we have no idea about history. If a building is 50 years
old--bulldoze it and put up something ugly. We really are adolescents in
There I was fascinated to walk along streets that have been there since Roman
times, or at least the 15th or 16th century. One of the things that
impressed me was how the architecture blends in with the landscape rather
than scarring it. Well, there are the tourist cities like Nice, replete with
McDonald's. No Starbucks, though. Their attitude is, "If you want a
different flavor, grow a different bean, but DO NOT mix the beans. Oh, I'd
still rather live here, but I do wish we had more of a sense of what made us
what we are instead of acting like spoiled teens who think we invented the
They are insane drivers in France. The roads are very narrow and they
drive very fast. It's somewhat problematic who's going to stop when, so it's
a constant game of chicken.
Their economy is socialism gone absolutely wild! Unemployment is very
high because people don't want to hire people because they have to pay
exorbitant taxes to pay for the health care and welfare programs. I did like
the way you pay for things over there. Everything is in an even number of
francs, tax and tip included. None of our "$2.98 + tax." Also, their
different denominations of money are different colors and designs so you can
easily see what you have.
Now, for the genealogy. Before I went over, I received an e-mail from
Audrey Massey saying there was a house with an inscription over the door in
St. Jean Pied du Port in the Basque Country (Pays Basque)saying, "Johannes
Diriberry et Louise DuHalde, Maestro et maitresse de la maison de Londresena,
1722." Well, that certainly came closer to Derryberry than I had ever seen.
Besides, Audrey's letter was shown to a man in Lyon, France who assured her
it could be nothing other than Basque. To quote Audrey's letter, "This
inscription lead to a belief by some that this had been a tavern, others felt
it might have been a Huguenot house of refuge. Some felt it indicated a
former family tie with England, perhaps from some of the family who had fled
France and later (their descendants) returned.
"Two years later, I was in contact with a woman in Lyon, France, who gave
my letter to a Monsieur Louis Diriberry. He said the name can have no other
origin than Basque. It means 'of Iriberry,' formerly 'D'Iriberry.' He said
the village of Iriberry was an ancient one that was incorporated into another
and no longer exists, but that the surname Diriberry is known as Basque in
the area of Lyon and the French Pyrennes.
"The doorway can be found in St. Jean Pied du Port. Msr Diriberry said
he had seen the inscription himself several times."
So, armed with all that knowledge, I ventured forth. The train trip from
Nice to Bayonne was overnight in a sleeper. What a misnomer. But that's
another story for another time.
As we entered Basque country, I was enchanted. I knew next to nothing
about the Basques. I had done some research on the Internet, but that really
didn't give me a feel. I did, however, feel as I entered the Region, "Yeah,
I could be Basque." I chose Bayonne over Biartiz because it didn't sound so
touristy. It's right out of the 16th and 17th century, forgetting the
modernizations. (I didn't see a McDonald's there.) The tourist bureau had a
wonderful map in English showing the important sites. The town also has
signs posted all around pointing to the sites which correspond with the map.
When you get to the site, there are descriptions in French, Spanish (it's
right on the French-Spanish border), English and Euskara (the native Basque
language spoken by about 20% of the people.) Here again, there is lots of
history. Also, this is where the bayonet was invented and chocolate was
introduced to the west by Portugese Jews fleeing from persecution. When it
was first introduced, it was called "the devil's brew" by the church, because
it was thought to be an aphrodisiac. However, it soon gained favor with the
upper class and became the favorite it is today.
After two days in Bayonne, I took the hour long train ride to St. Jean Pied
du Port. I found out that it got it's name not only because it is at the
foot of the Pyrenees, but it was one of the places where the French held the
Spanish at bay.
The proprietor of the hotel where I stayed in St. Jean was very delighted
when I told him my reason for being there. He told me where to go to get
more information and agreed that Derryberry HAD to be a Basque name. In
fact, anybody with a drop of Basque blood said the same.
When I went to the Tourist Bureau, she said the door I was looking for
was very famous and pointed out on tours. She told me where to find it. I
did and took a couple of pictures of it. It looks like the house is
occupied, but I didn't pursue that avenue. From the town hall, I found out
that Johannes and Louise DuHalde had a daughter in 1709. That's all the
information they had about that. But I was told that even if I found people
with the same name, they might not be related as that only means they were
When I got home, I looked in the familysearch.org and found that Micheal
(our common progenitor) was born in Burke Co. NC in 1785, died on Feb. 9,
1861 in Warren Co. TN and was married to Nancy Rosanna about 1802. Not only
that, but several generations back were born in this country, the first being
John J. Derryberry, born about 1710. Maybe everybody else knows all this,
but I'm new and was quit amazed.
It seems to me, from what I could gather that d'Iriberry just means "from
Iriberry," rather that a definite surname. But the Basque people I talked to
felt that "berry" was definitely a Basque ending. My own opinion had always
been that it was something Celtic like Welsh or Irish. But, when you stop to
think about it, the Celts were all over western Europe, including the British
I went to >familyresearch.org<, typed in Derryberry and followed the
links which eventually took me back to John J. Derryberry born about 1710 in
Essex Co., Va. He and wife, Anna Buck, had a son named Jacob. Jacob and
Christiiana Bernhardt begat Michael Alexander D'y in 1785. He married Nancy
Rosanna in 1802, when he was 17 and she was 12 and they had 8 children.
There is a disclaimer on all these records that "the information has not
been verified against any official records. ..it is the responsibility of
those who use the file to verify its accuracy."
I add, has anyone has ever found a Diriberry on a ship's list to America,
or ever found a Diriberry who also used the name Derryberry or Derreberry?
My problem with Diriberry thing is that no one has yet, to my knowledge,
ever found a crossover like has been found with the
Correction from DFNO #13, my daughter, Susan, lives in Evanston, instead on
Willimette, IL, but by only about the length of a football field. It is so
close to the town line that I forgot. They say there are three things that
happen to you as you get older. The first is that you begin to forgrt a lot,
and I've forgotten what the other two were.
I had a nice trip to Littleton, CO recently. My niece and her husband,
for her mother's 75th birthday, got my widowed sister-in-law, Donna, my wife,
Alta, and me to come to Littleton for 4 days to celebrate and be together
again once more. We had a ball.
My sister, the birthday girl, Jady, or Jo D. As she now likes to be
called, has had to have both hip joints replaced and cannot yet travel, so we
traveled to her. She lives near her only child, and only grand child, there
in Littleton area. She has had cataract surgery and just now getting back to
where she can do her life love, sewing. She has one hugh garden and, like
her mother did, puts up lots of pickels and makes jelly. I believe she is
Took longer to get together enough for a newsletter this time. Maybe more
family news next time, if you all will come on through.